Jerry and Kelly McRae share how they use literature, storytelling, and community resources to teach Black history and identity. They discuss navigating their children's experiences with racism, the influence of social media, and the importance of building community connections. This episode highlights strategies for creating resilient, culturally grounded family dynamics.
Jerry McRae
So, when we think about teaching our kids Black history, I I think a lot about how often the school curriculum falls, um, short. Itâs almost like...thereâs this intentional erasure, you know? So, what we do is we really curate their learning at home.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. And itâs not like weâre building a full-on history classâwell, kindaâbut we use stories a lot. Like, remember how we talked about Katherine Johnson with Camren last week? He was so amazed to learn about what she did at NASA.
Jerry McRae
He really was! And Iâwhat struck me was how he connected that to his, uh, love for math. Itâs like, when we tell them about people who look like them achieving amazing things, it reframes what's possible in their minds. I think storytelling is one of our sharpest tools here.
Kelly McRae
Absolutely! But we also make it a point to show them that history isnât all triumphs, right? Like when we talked about the Montgomery Bus Boycott. Brianaâs big question was, âBut how could people treat us that way?â
Jerry McRae
Yeah. And I I didnât want to just brush it offââcause those are fair questions. I explained how systemic racism worked then and honestly, how it still works now. Itâs tough, but they they need to see the through line to today, you know?
Kelly McRae
Mm-hmm, and the key is using age-appropriate language. I mean, Briana is only seven. We give them the history, but we mix in hope, too. Remember when we were at grandma's house and Uncle Lonnie was talking about something and the kids walked in, and suddenly Aunt Monica yelled, Age Appropriate! Thatâs why I talked to her about Claudette Colvin and how, even as a teenager, she made such a huge stand for civil rights.
Jerry McRae
Right! And the thing I love is how interactive they get. I mean, when Camren asked, "What wouldâve happened if Claudette hadnât sat down on that bus?" it led to this whole conversation about how small actions lead to big movements.
Kelly McRae
Yes! And thatâs the beauty of it. Theyâre curious, and itâs up to us to feed that curiosity with the right resources. Like, weâve got that whole shelf of literature specifically about Black history and culture. I mean, Jerry, thanks to you, weâre swimming in books.
Jerry McRae
Guilty as charged. Being a librarian, I am around interesting books all of the time and I like building up our in home library with nice reading materials. My mom had some great books too! After she passed away, I've been finding some interesting ones that she was reading, especially the Prayers book which Pastor Jameson instructed the men's group to read. She had that one too! Ohhh, I love my mom in heaven! Thanks mom!
Kelly McRae
Awwwww, yea Miss Nettie! But it works! Those books help us create a positive narrative around our heritageâsomething the schools donât do. At least, not comprehensively.
Jerry McRae
Exactly. Itâs...our responsibility, really. One of the things I like to do is tie history to local community events. Like Brianaâs dance recital last monthâit gave us a chance to talk about the history of African American dance.
Kelly McRae
Thatâs so true. And you know what else? Finding resources outside the house. Like, those workshops at the cultural centerâthey love those, and it gets them touching and seeing the history actively.
Jerry McRae
Yeah. Itâs about building pride in their identity while also arming them with an understanding that goes deeper than surface-level lessons they, uh, might get at school.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. And I think itâs safe to say theyâre starting to get it. The other day, Briana told me she wants to design a mural of Harriet Tubman for her art class.
Jerry McRae
Thatâs incredible.
Kelly McRae
It really is. And it reminds me that the work weâre doing at homeâtelling these stories, celebrating their historyâitâs impacting how they see themselves and the world around them.
Kelly McRae
You know, itâs moments like Briana coming home that really remind us why these conversations matter. Iâll never forget when she walked in after that incident in third gradeâshe looked so confused, almost hurt, and she asked, âWhy did they say I canât play with them 'cause Iâm Black?â
Jerry McRae
Ugh, I remember that. My heart sank. IâI mean, as a parent, you know itâs coming. But when it does, it just...knocks the wind out of you.
Kelly McRae
Right. And that night, we had to sit her down and explain racism in a way that wasnât overwhelming but still honest. I told her, âSome people misunderstand or donât value our skin color, but that doesnât mean weâre any less.â
Jerry McRae
And I tried to emphasize that itâs not about herâitâs about their ignorance. Still, itâs tough because you want to shield them, but you also have to prepare them, you know?
Kelly McRae
Exactly. It really tested how we balance giving her a safe space to feel and process while also...equipping her to stand strong. Thatâs resilience-building in action, I think.
Jerry McRae
Totally. And what helped was sharing our own stories. Like, I told her about the time in eighth grade when I got called names during gym class. Hearing how I processed itâprobably clumsily back thenâhelped her see she wasnât alone.
Kelly McRae
But you know, what makes it harder now is social media.
Jerry McRae
Oh, yeah. Social media is like, this constant storm of images and ideas, right? And for Black kids, itâs...itâs such a double-edged sword. On one side, you see all these uplifting momentsâlike Black excellence in every fieldâbut then on the other side are the stereotypes and, uh, outright toxicity theyâre exposed to.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. Briana saw a meme once that mocked natural hair, and it really shook her confidence. She even asked me, âShould I straighten my hair to look like the other girls?â That hurt to hear.
Jerry McRae
Yeah, and thatâs the tricky part. I mean, how do we use social media to build their self-esteem while helping them, uh, critically analyze the negativity? Itâs not an easy conversation, but necessary.
Kelly McRae
It is. Thatâs why we set boundaries early on. Like, theyâre allowed scheduled screen time, but we also make it a point to sit with them, talk about what theyâre seeing, and ask questions like, âHow does that image make you feel? Why do you think itâs framed that way?â
Jerry McRae
And the thing is, those dialogues teach them to pause and think. Camrenâs even started pointing out biases on his own now. He called out an ad last week, saying, âWhy donât they include people who look like us?â
Kelly McRae
I love that. It shows theyâre beginning to see themselves more critically, but without losing their sense of worth. Thatâs exactly what weâre aiming for, isnât it?
Jerry McRae
It is. And, honestly, seeing them strengthen those muscles gives me hope. Like, theyâll be ready to navigate this digital world with their heads high, knowing they belong.
Jerry McRae
It makes me thinkâhow different might it have been if our parents, our kidsâ grandparents, were still here to help us guide them? Growing up, I didnât realize how much grandparents add to the fabric of family lifeâtraditions, stories, even just their presence could have been such a grounding force in all this. Especially now, navigating things like social media and identity.
Kelly McRae
Absolutely. I mean, my grandma used to tell me so many stories about her childhood, and looking back, it really shaped the way I saw myself and my family history. Without that, weâve had to, you know, kinda get creative with how we keep that connection alive for the kids.
Jerry McRae
Yeah, and honestly, it feels like weâre constantly piecing things together. Like take those video calls weâve set up with Aunt Monica and Uncle Sandy. Theyâre not quite the same as having them in the room, but the kids still get to hear those family stories firsthand. Itâs something, right?
Kelly McRae
Itâs definitely something! And that family history project you started with them? I think that was brilliant. Not even just the past but even present moments seeing family over zoom calls are connections and helps them see community.
Jerry McRae
And yea...I love how Aunt Girlie May would say things to help them envision their roots like, talking about the pecan tree at Grandma Gertrude's house and how we all would pick up pans full and shell them. Naming their aunts and uncles and people way back in their rootsâlike, these arenât just names or dates; these are their ancestors. People who lived, struggled, and thrived. Itâs grounding, I think.
Kelly McRae
It really is. And you know, itâs not just about the pastâitâs also about the present community we build around them. Like Ms, Powell at Oakley? She's been such a positive influence on both Briana and Camren.
Jerry McRae
Oh, absolutely. The way she mentored Camren through his school work and was incredible. Itâs people like him who remind me that even though weâre missing the grandparent generation, weâve got a village stepping in to fill those gaps.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. And itâs so important for the kids to know that theyâwell, that they have roots, but also wings, you know? That thereâs a community invested in their growth.
Jerry McRae
Well said. And I think part of our job is to keep finding those opportunities to connect them with mentors and role models. Itâs a reminder for us, too, that parenting is never really a solo actâitâs collaborative.
Kelly McRae
Right. And as much as it takes intentionality, the rewards make it so worth it. I mean, just seeing Briana light up when she learns something about her rootsâor when she tells me she sees herself in those storiesâthatâs when I know weâre doing something right.
Jerry McRae
Yeah. All the little moments, all the effort...itâs about creating a foundation they can carry with them. And honestly, I canât think of anything more important than that.
Kelly McRae
Me neither. So, to all the parents listeningâletâs keep building those connections, one story, one tradition, one relationship at a time.
Jerry McRae
Beautifully said, Kelly.
Kelly McRae
And on that note, thatâs it for todayâs episode. Thanks for tuning in, and weâll catch you next time.
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In this podcast, discover the insights of parents Jerry McRae & Kellye McRae, as they speak on subjects such as The Foundation of Black Parenthood, The Emotional & Mental Journey, Cultural & Social Dynamics, Love, Partnership & Parenting Together, The Reality of Raising Black Children, Navigating Modern Parenting Challenges, Legacy & Community Building and Unexpected Parenting Twists & Lessons.
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