This episode highlights how Jerry, Kellye, Camren, and Briana approach Black parenting in modern times. From preparing children for systemic challenges to preserving cultural identity and fostering joy, they share practical strategies and personal stories. The complexities of education, representation, and community are explored to empower families and celebrate legacy.
Jerry McRae
One of the conversations that every Black parent fears but knows is critical, is what we call "The Talk." It's, uhâit's not optional. It's about preparing our kids for the systemic barriers that society has placed in their wayâracism, stereotyping, implicit bias, and of course, those tricky police encounters.
Kelly McRae
Yeah, and itâs heartbreaking when you think about it. I mean, you're sitting your child down, telling them that the world views them differently just because of who they are, how they look. I know my Uncle Sandy, Aunt Monica and Cousin Stephanie doesn't play when it comes to this! But you know... we try, we we really try to make it more than just warnings, donât we?
Jerry McRae
Absolutely. Itâs not just a list of "do's and don't." It's coupled with building their self-worth and ensuring that they know how to navigate the world with dignity, you know? I mean, thereâs a deep history to this kind of preparationâit goes back centuries. Enslaved people had to prepare their children for a brutal, unjust society too, and here we are, with that same heavy burden.
Kelly McRae
AndâŠand we keep doing it because we love them so much. But we also pass down the beauty of our culture, don't we? Like, thatâs the part that brings light into it all for me. I think of, like, how we celebrate Kwanzaa with Cam and Brianaânot just because itâs tradition, but because itâs meaningful. Connecting to African roots reminds them theyâre part of something so much bigger.
Jerry McRae
Exactly. Itâs about pride, tradition, and resilience. I think when we talk about incorporating African parenting traditions, itâs things like storytellingâremember how we told those stories about Grandma Nettie and Grandma Alma last month, and Camren and Briana were so intrigued?
Kelly McRae
Oh, I loved that! It had hilarious parts about how grandma would dance right by herself in the front room and get so excited about Micheal Jackson twist, but it still kept the moral of the story intact. And thatâs the thingâkidsâthey get it. They absorb these lessons without even realizing.
Jerry McRae
Yeah. And those little moments stay with them. But letâs shift gears a bitâhow we handle this in our own neighborhood. Because raising our kids in a gentrified areaâŠ
Kelly McRae
Oof. Thereâs definitely pressure there. I mean, the community my family grew up in in Harlem looks completely different now, itâs... itâs hard to ground the kids in that same cultural richness, you know? Luckily in Saint George, our family basically own the entire road, so nothing has changed and we still have our culture, our memories, our history, and most of all, our ownership!
Jerry McRae
Yea, I love that about your family! Bishopville Road is a straight up treasure! But in other places, itâs not just the visuals, either. Itâs the schools, Kelly. Itâs the curriculum that leaves out our stories. Everything around them sometimes feels like itâs subtly trying to erase their identities. Thatâs why it's more important than ever to teach them at homeâwhy, for exampleâ
Kelly McRae
Why we donât let them lose our Sunday dinners. I still remember when we used to live in Red Springs and after we came to Aunt Chris and Aunt Joanne's house from Uncle Johnnie's church, we all sat at the long kitchen table and enjoyed Sunday dinner!
Jerry McRae
Exactly! Those Sunday dinners were where we really communicated and have those lasting life long memories! Where we sit together and discuss who we are, where we come from. Weâre raising our kids to be proud of their ancestryâto walk out into the world knowing they carry history with them.
Kelly McRae
And you can see that pride in their eyes when they try to, you know, accomplish something rooted in what weâve taught them. Like, Briana standing up for her class project on African American scientists. She told me she felt like a queen that day.
Jerry McRae
Thatâs what itâs about. Helping them see where they come from so that no gentrification or societal barrier can take that pride away. And honestly...
Kelly McRae
Honestly, itâs not always easy. We just hold on to the practices we canâthe traditions, the lessons, the values. And thatâs how we make sure our kids donât lose the essence of who they are, no matter what.
Jerry McRae
So when we talk about Black Joy, weâre really deepening what we just discussed. We're emphasizing Camp Meeting. Every year those days at Camp Meeting, fellow shipping with all of those families is an absolute treasure in our community. Our pride, our traditions, and our resilience. Itâs more than just happiness; itâs this deliberate celebration of who we are, this powerful response that says, "We thrive, no matter what." Itâs a resistance, you know?
Kelly McRae
Yeah, exactly. Itâs not about ignoring the hard stuff or pretending it doesnât exist. Itâs about finding joy within our culture, our family, and our historyâlike holding onto a lifeline. And for me, it starts right in our home, Jerry. You know what I mean?
Jerry McRae
Absolutely. I mean, for example, take Camren and Briana. Watching them dance around the house during our family game nightsâit's not just playful chaos, itâs pure unfiltered joy rooted in this sense of safety and love we create for them.
Kelly McRae
Oh, especially when Briana pulls out her favorite playlist of old-school songs and she does that little two-step that looks just like your momâs moves!
Jerry McRae
I know, right? Itâs like history repeating itself on the living room floor. And thatâs also why, you know, we make it a point to connect them to those bigger pieces of Black heritage. Those cultural threads that tie us together.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. Like when we took them toâand this was months agoâthe local Black art gallery. Seeing Cam stare at that mural of Fannie Lou Hamer? ItâŠI mean, it gave me chills. He kept saying, âShe looks so strong, Mom.â And I was like, âShe was, baby. She was.â
Jerry McRae
And thatâs exactly what representation does. It, uhâit plants these seeds of pride and possibility in their minds. When they see themselves in art, in history, in leadership, theyâre not just imagining a better futureâtheyâre realizing theyâre part of a powerful lineage. Itâs, uh, itâs empowering.
Kelly McRae
I definitely saw it with Briana last year during Black History Month, when they had a program at Mental Fitness. She couldn't wait to tell all her cousins about it. She told Gray son, Rayna, and Haven. She was so excited to learn about different inventors and contributions to this country that her ancestors made!
Jerry McRae
Yeah, thatâexactly that. Itâs about giving them a foundation strong enough to carry forward with pride and with joy, even when society tries to strip it away. This idea of Black Joy, itâs something we have to, um, protect and cultivate like a garden.
Kelly McRae
And, oh, letâs not ignore the impact of positive role models, right? Like Bri sitting on the couch, glued to Serena Williams' documentary, or Camren going, âDad, I wanna do speeches like Martin Luther King Jr.â That kind of inspiration becomes part of their fabric, you know?
Jerry McRae
Completely. Itâs, uh⊠it goes back to representation again. Watching figures who reflect their potentialâitâs like they light up with the realization of their own worth and possibility.
Kelly McRae
And honestly, isnât that the whole point? Not just surviving, but thrivingâfinding joy on purpose as we guide them through this complicated world.
Jerry McRae
You know, I talked to your cousin Danielle and Aunt Joanne about this because they are amazing teachers! Everything weâve been saying about representation and pride in who we areâit makes me think about how much this is missing in education. The glaring absence of Black faces in curriculums or leadership positions like teachers and administratorsâitâs, uh, itâs more than just disappointing. Itâs erasing whole chapters of history and silencing so much potential.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. And itâs more than justâwell, textbooks lacking our history. Itâs the environment. Kids pick up on, you know, the subtle ways the system tells them they donât belong. Iâve seen it with our own kids. Itâs frustrating.
Jerry McRae
It really is. And, historically, this isnât new. Itâs tied right into larger systemic issuesâthings like redlining, school zoning, and funding disparities that keep predominantly Black schools under-resourced. But when those factors affect predominantly white schools too, theyâ
Kelly McRae
They pretend itâs not a problem?
Jerry McRae
Exactly.
Kelly McRae
And, Jerry, thatâs where we as parents have to step up. 'Cause waiting for change to come, it justâit doesnât work, you know?
Jerry McRae
No, it doesnât. Weâve had to advocate fiercely for both Camren and Briana. Whether itâs, uh, talking to teachers about classroom materials, or making sure that their contributionsâ
Kelly McRae
âare respected. Yeah, exactly! Like, remember when Brianaâs teacher almost skipped over her project during open house because âwe were running out of timeâ? Oh no, I let her know politely but firmlyâthat wasnât gonna happen.
Jerry McRae
And those moments matter. When they see us standing up for them, it reinforces their own voices, their own sense of agency. But itâs also about building networks, finding allies in the Oakley school system who understand what weâre fighting for. Like organizing with other parents.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. I mean, our local parent group? Itâs been a lifeline. Theyâve shared resources I didnât even know existedâscholarship programs, tutoring servicesâand that connection makes a difference. We can't do it all alone.
Jerry McRae
No, we canât. And when we talk about representation, itâs also pushing for programs that bring in diverse educators. You know, teachers who can reflect our kidsâ identities and experiences. Itâs transformational when a child sees themselves in leadership and academia.
Kelly McRae
Oh, like Miss Powell and how Cam loved his teacher last year. He said that she was nice and he recognizes words easier when he's reading. She was phenomenal. Not just because she was a great teacher, but because Cam looked up to her as someone who âgot it.â Thereâs power in that kind of connection. Itâsâitâs irreplaceable.
Jerry McRae
Yes! And Brianna loved Miss Stokes and how she really helped her understand math. And for us, these small victories remind us why we keep pushing. Itâs exhausting sometimes, but itâs about laying the groundwork for something biggerâensuring that our kids, and kids like them, donât just exist in these systems but thrive in them.
Kelly McRae
Absolutely. And you know, even with all the challenges, the key is persistence. Knowing that every stepâevery fightâisnât just for Cam and Briana, but for the generations that come next. And, JerryâŠ
Jerry McRae
...yeah?
Kelly McRae
Hearing Briana say, âYou showed me how to stand tallâ? That makes it all worth it.
Jerry McRae
It does. And thatâs the legacy we hope to leaveâfor them and for every kid like them who deserves more. Always more.
Kelly McRae
And thatâs the work of parentingâBlack parentingâtoday. Teaching them to rise, love, and fight for something greater.
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In this podcast, discover the insights of parents Jerry McRae & Kellye McRae, as they speak on subjects such as The Foundation of Black Parenthood, The Emotional & Mental Journey, Cultural & Social Dynamics, Love, Partnership & Parenting Together, The Reality of Raising Black Children, Navigating Modern Parenting Challenges, Legacy & Community Building and Unexpected Parenting Twists & Lessons.
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