Jerry and Kelly share insights into balancing their roles as partners and parents while raising Camren and Briana. They discuss navigating differing parenting styles, promoting financial literacy through creativity, and grounding their family in spirituality and resilience. Through personal anecdotes and practical advice, they offer a heartfelt glimpse into their journey.
Jerry McRae
So, you know, being partners and parents at the same time â it's, uh, it's a bit like walking a tightrope, right? Balancing all the demands while keeping that connection alive. I remember, uh, Saturdays and evenings.... Camren had tutoring, basketball practice, and my schedule was already jammed, getting off from the library at 6 o' clock. Kelly, you were on one of your long nursing shifts from 7 to 7â
Kelly McRae
Oh yeah, I remember those days! Shoot, we're still living them! With you working some of the same weekends that I do, your job not closing until 6 and after school wants you to be there by 6:30! It has been a lot of those days honey! There were not enough hours in a day, and, honestly, it felt like neither of us could breathe steady until we just... got through it somehow.....BUTâGOD!
Jerry McRae
And we did, though. Barely. I mean, Camren and Briana were doing their best and ten minutes after we would get in the car, I would look in the rear view mirror and I'd see their little eyes closed. Awww, it was draining on them too! I was thinking about your shift and hoping you had managed to eat something at least. I remember texting you in the middle of it like, "Hey, you holding up?"
Kelly McRae
Yeah, and those messages? They matter so much. Itâs not just about surviving the dayâitâs about those little check-ins, making sure weâre both still okay, even when itâs chaotic.
Jerry McRae
Exactly. Itâs, it's those moments where we lean on each other, even from a distance. Like, I handled practice that day, but when we got home, IâI was frustrated because Briana wanted help with her homework, and I was so fried from everything. And man, you... you just jumped right in. Took over.
Kelly McRae
Mmm-hmm. But itâs teamwork, Jerry, thatâs the thing. Weâve gotta remind each other weâre a team. Iâitâs not "you win, I lose." When Camren and Briana see that, they learn what it means to really prioritize family. It's bigger than just getting tasks done.
Jerry McRae
And, and letâs be honest, we donât always get it perfectly. Parenting, partnershipâit's messy sometimes. Like, you and I? We, uh, we sometimes clash on approaches.
Kelly McRae
Oh, for sure, like the discipline thing. You tend to be more structured. Some might call it âstrict,â but I see your perspective, thatâs how kids learn boundaries. I know they respect Red Ruley and your family had no problem getting a switch from the back yard. But rarely ever have we had to do that. We have very good kids! I'mâI'm more, what, exploratory? Like, âletâs talk this out first.â
Jerry McRae
Thatâs fair. I feel like I, uh, I focus on the strong male role! The power figure in the household! Not that I want them to be afraid of me but that tremble of respect. Have them thinking in the back of their mind that dad is in the room now, so there will be not playing around and getting into mischief. But hey, the key isârespect and knowing right from wrong. Same for you too, I hope.
Kelly McRae
I do. Itâs not always easy, but yeah. Weâve found ways to blend it. Like when Camren was pushing back about when his grades fell and he wanted to play Fortnite on the weekends. You suggested consequences we both agreed on, so it wasnât just "Mom said this" or "Dad said that." Unified front.
Jerry McRae
Right, and I think, I think what shows them more than anything is seeing us resolve our stuff. Camren learned that what daddy and mommy said goes. He sat in the corner of the couch on Saturdays, while Briana was on her phone and could play her games freely! You gotta learn bruh! They also see how we handle disagreements, how we trade off responsibilitiesâand, honestly, it strengthens us too.
Kelly McRae
Yeah. And I mean, every day we figure it out together. I think what makes it... what keeps it solid is the respectâthe understanding weâre working towards the same goals. Like, weâre just trying to raise good human beings who feel loved and supported, but also accountable.
Jerry McRae
And, you know, doing it while still showing up for each other as partners, not just as "Mom and Dad." Like taking care of us helps us take care of them. That balance is everything.
Jerry McRae
You know, what weâve been learning as parents and partners really comes into play when we think about the future. Like, when it comes to building wealthâI mean, generational wealthâitâs not just about earning money, right? It's, uh, teaching Camren and Briana what it means to manage it, to respect it. Like, what does saving really look like for an 8-year-old or a 10-year-old? Itâs a challenge, but itâs... itâs also an incredible opportunity.
Kelly McRae
Right, because they donât teach this in schools, especially not for us. And, letâs be real, systemic barriers have always made it harder for Black families to build wealth, let alone pass it down. So we have to start early; we have to make it something they can understand and engage with.
Jerry McRae
Exactly, like, just the other day Camren asked me why we have to pay bills. And IâI mean, that turned into this whole family conversation about how money works. We sat down and I showed him how budgeting is basically like planning for a big tripâmapping out where the moneyâs going before you spend it. He seemed to get it... kinda.
Kelly McRae
He totally got it! Come on Jerry, I honestly love that early on when I first met you, that you were talking about stocks, dividend funds, and cryptocurrency! I was so impressed! This man isn't just talking about Kobe Bryant and when the new Jordan's are coming out! The kids guard their piggy banks and money jars.
Jerry McRae
Yeah, I admit, that when I first started day trading stocks, then finding real value in buying them weekly, and holding on to them for generational wealth, really made the light bulb come on over my head! Now Camren and Brianna come to me every week, asking how much money is in their savings accounts! They actually get excited to give me money that their aunts and uncles give them to put in their bank savings!
Kelly McRae
Yes, they are! Thank you honey for doing all of that! I know that you lost a lot of money in the process of learning how to be profitable in these markets. But you've gained way more back than you've lost! When it comes to their savings, they can see the progress, and it becomes their choice to save because you've taught them about the monthly interest. That's empowering, you know? It gives them this sense of ownership over their goals.
Jerry McRae
Exactly babe! That's why they ask to see their account every month because they know that it will automatically be more than the last time that they looked at it. And, I think another layer to itâand this is huge, Kelly, I mean weâweâve talked about thisâis teaching them why itâs important. Like the history behind why itâs been harder for our families to build wealth. I want them to understand that itâs not just about making money, but breaking cycles.
Kelly McRae
Oh yeah, breaking cycles is the key. But we donât want them feeling the weight of it, you know? Itâs about equipping them so they can walk into adulthood confident, not overwhelmed. And for us, itâs also about how we lead by example. When they see us sitting down to plan, or being intentional about where our money goes, thatâs their baseline.
Jerry McRae
Yeah, and, you know, I think seeing us talk about it openlyâitâs such a shift from how money was always this, uh... almost like a taboo topic when we were growing up. Weâre kinda rewriting the playbook here.
Kelly McRae
Mmm-hmm. And itâs not just about saving or budgetsâitâs also showing them the bigger picture. Things like credit, investments, even how to give back. I mean, Briana? That girl already wants to start her own business.
Jerry McRae
Sheâs ambitious. I love that about her. And Camren? Heâs already thinking about how basketball scholarships, track scholarships because he's so fast! This might play into his plans after hearing us talk about college savings and N I L deals. That's big money to let it just sit and grow. Itâs these little seeds we plant, you know?
Kelly McRae
Definitely. And we just keep watering them. I think the goal isnât just wealthâitâs freedom for them to live fully, to pursue their dreams. And it starts here, in these small, day-to-day lessons.
Kelly McRae
You know, when I think about how we try to empower Camren and Brianaânot just with lessons about money but in lifeâit ties back to our spirituality, too. Like, those nightly prayers we share together? Going to Sunday and Wednesday Service at Bethlehem City of Faith. Itâs not just about faith; itâs about grounding us as a family and reminding us weâre connected, no matter what kind of day weâve had.
Jerry McRae
Mmm, yeah. Those prayers? We believe in GOD! Jesus is the reason we live, breath and thrive! This sets the rhythm for us. I mean, even on my toughest days, hearing them pray, and the noon day prayer calls that we have with our church family, really helps our lives! It makes me pause and reflect on what really matters.
Kelly McRae
Oh, definitely. And you know, itâs not just for them, itâs for us, too. Itâs that space where we all come together, even if the day has been chaos. And the questions they ask during those moments? Whew, they can be deep.
Jerry McRae
Deep is an understatement! Remember that Sunday School lesson Camren came back from? Heâhe came into the living room, plopped down on the couch, and just said, âDad, if God made us, who made God?â I mean... how do you even start unpacking that?
Kelly McRae
Oh, I remember that! And youâoh my goshâyou gave him that whole metaphor about a writer creating characters in a book. That was brilliant.
Jerry McRae
Thanks. I mean, IâI think it clicked for him in a way, but itâs those moments that make me realize how important our role is in shaping their spiritual journey, you know? Weâre not just teaching them what to believe, weâre teaching them how to think about what they believe.
Kelly McRae
Exactly. And, honestly, faith gives us a framework for some of these harder conversations, too. When we talk to them about resilience, about being Black in a world that doesnât always value us, itâs spirituality that helps us root those discussions in hope and not justâwellâstruggle.
Jerry McRae
Hope, yeah. Thatâs key. Itâs what I think about when we have those moments where we turn to ancestral guidanceâtelling them about where we came from, and why our stories matter. Itâs about showing them theyâre part of something bigger, something strong.
Kelly McRae
Absolutely. And you know, itâs not always perfect. Thereâll be moments they question things, moments they resist, but, to me, thatâs part of faith, tooâwrestling with it, growing with it. The important thing is that connection weâve built stays strong.
Jerry McRae
Yeah, and teaching them that faith isnât staticâit evolves. I want them to see it as a source of strength as they navigate whatever life throws at them. Like Camren asking those big questions? I love thatâtheyâre thinking, theyâre processing. That shows weâre doing something right.
Kelly McRae
And it gives us a sense of purpose as parents, too. I mean, guiding them spiritually is one of the most important responsibilities we have. When they know who they are and where they come from, faith becomes armorâand not just for them, but for us all.
Jerry McRae
Couldnât have said it better myself. At the end of the day, spirituality isnât just something we practiceâitâs something that shapes how we live and love every day. And I think thatâs a gift worth passing on.
Kelly McRae
Definitely. And thatâs the foundation weâre building every single dayâwith each prayer, each conversation, and every bit of love we pour into them.
Jerry McRae
And thatâs all for today. Great talking as always, Kelly. My wife, my love, my partner for life! Until next time.
Kelly McRae
For sure. I love you with all my heart! See you next time!
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In this podcast, discover the insights of parents Jerry McRae & Kellye McRae, as they speak on subjects such as The Foundation of Black Parenthood, The Emotional & Mental Journey, Cultural & Social Dynamics, Love, Partnership & Parenting Together, The Reality of Raising Black Children, Navigating Modern Parenting Challenges, Legacy & Community Building and Unexpected Parenting Twists & Lessons.
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